The LYLAS Podcast
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The LYLAS Podcast
The Coffee Chat with My Younger Self
What would you tell your younger self? That question sparked a fascinating exploration of life lessons, hard-won wisdom, and the unexpected gifts that come with age and experience.
The magical thing about turning 40 isn't just the physical changes – it's the powerful ability to look back across two decades of adulthood and recognize how much knowledge you've gained. Like having coffee with your 20-year-old self, this reflective vantage point reveals truths that could have changed everything.
Financial literacy tops the list of crucial knowledge many wish they'd gained earlier. Understanding how to make your money work for you, managing student debt, and avoiding the trap of spending every dollar you earn creates freedom that compounds over time. Equally important is developing a value-driven plan for life – not just career goals, but clarity about what truly matters to you. When your choices align with your core values, fulfillment follows naturally.
Perhaps the most liberating realization? Nobody is paying as much attention to your choices as you think they are. The freedom to fail, change direction, and reimagine your path without fear of judgment opens worlds of possibility. Your education and experience equip you with transferable skills that can flourish in countless contexts – you're not locked into any single trajectory.
Creating boundaries, developing a meditation practice, freeing yourself from body image obsessions, and simply taking the trip when your gut tells you to – these lessons emerge repeatedly as game-changers. The most painful regrets center not on what we did, but what we didn't do when we felt that internal pull.
Whether you're approaching 40, looking back from beyond it, or still navigating your 20s, this conversation offers perspective that might just change how you view the journey ahead. What would you tell your younger self over coffee? And perhaps more importantly – what might your future self wish you understood right now?
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I think people give so much fear around the turning 40, but there's really some something magical that happens, and I'm not talking about perimenopause. It's the ability to reflect on the last two decades of your life and realize all the knowledge that you've gained, and there's something super powerful about that, or at least that's what I've experienced. Would you?
Speaker 2:agree, I don't know. It's kind of like a really reflective point in time where it allows you to, like you said, learn and reflect upon what you've done, but also then manage more effectively because we have the experience the knowledge the mistakes whatever. And now we can form new dreams or new possibilities for our life, and so it is. I think it's a good time.
Speaker 1:Well, there's something trending I'm sure you've seen this on social media and it's I had coffee with my younger self today. Have you seen this? You know what I'm talking about? No, you haven't seen it. Yeah, and so people say you know, I had coffee with my younger self, my 20-year-old self, my 30-year-old self, because there is so much knowledge that comes from looking in the rearview mirror. From all your mistakes, from all your successes, you really can glean some life lessons. And so what are some things that you would tell yourself and I think you know I got lots of things wrote down, of things. I would go back and tell myself, if I could have coffee with 20-year-old Jenny, 29-year-old Jenny, hell, 35-year-old Jenny, like, there's definitely some things that I would share that I think would have maybe changed or maybe not. You know the trajectory of things, but certainly some things that I have learned in the last two decades.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And as we were talking about this topic, I was even thinking about like my clinical career, whenever I would work with young adults, adolescents, people within their you know transitional periods of time and just to hear the masses amounts of just like confusion, dissonance, disappointment, excitement, you know. A whole host of different emotions kind of come up whenever we find ourselves within this place, and it can really be a big challenge. And so I think it is fun to kind of go back and like speak to ourself or to just say, hey, these are some things that just might be helpful. Keep them in your back pocket, you know, or give yourself some grace If you were one of the people that did some of the things that we're going to talk about. Give yourself some grace for walking that walk, going through it and now seeing yourself at where you're at today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, giving herself some grace. So what's the first thing that comes to mind? What would you tell yourself, your younger self? I?
Speaker 2:know right, you want me to go first. I got my list in front of me.
Speaker 1:I think one of the things that comes to mind is get a hold of, or get a good understanding of, finances, and I don't, you know, I still don't know that I have a good grasp on that. I just happen to have a husband that is super interested and really takes initiative with our family finances, and he's taught me a lot. But I wish that was something that I had learned on my own as a young 20 year old. Not, you know my parents. I learned on my own as a young 20 year old. You know my parents, I think, did the best they could. I just wasn't maybe ready to to learn it, but you really do set yourself up that's one thing I've learned from my husband is like you pay yourself first and you, you don't spend every dollar you make, and that's not, you know, that's not innate for me. That's something I've had to learn, and so really having a good understanding of how you make your money make money.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. Yeah, you're right, because that really does set you up for the rest of your life is sometimes just getting that first credit card and then maxing it out or, you know, not understanding bills and the fluctuation that comes with all of that.
Speaker 1:Understanding student debt. Like I mean, I took out a ton of student loans and, you know, had no real plan of how I was going to pay those off and I wish I had a crash course you know the 19-year-old on what that means when you're taking out this money and how much money that's going to end up costing you long-term. And you know, really, just having a. It took me so many, so many hours of my life to figure all of that out, and so I would definitely go back and say to her, like, make sure you have a full understanding of what this entails.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's a good one, that's a really good one For me. I think one of the first things that come to mind is that I think it's important to have some type of value-driven plan for life in general, and that doesn't mean that I'm being like very concrete and saying, you know, I want to have this job, I want to make this much money, I want to do like all of these very specific types of like goal achievement types of things. It means more. It's like I want my values, I value my health, I value my spirituality, I value my relationship with my family or the one that I want to have with my kids.
Speaker 2:I value time and I think that by taking some moments back at those different points and really making sure that my values are as concrete as they can and specific, or at least that I know what ones are most important to me, and then deciding what my educational path or what my relationships or where I want to live, like, all of these things then have to fit within my values, because the box doesn't work. It doesn't work in reverse, and so if I choose the career, the relationship, the place I'm living, and I still feel unhappy, even though I have success within those areas. It's not because of my dissatisfaction with what I'm doing. It's that I'm not living a life in accordance with my values, in a sense, and so, with my career, it took a lot of time. It took a lot of time away from a lot of things Myself, my kid relationships, you know, my dog, whatever, like these silly things that we all just are like. Well, we're doing it for them. I don't think that that was worth it for me.
Speaker 2:I think that having more time to have actually been present. You know what I mean. Within some of those things would have been just better. In some ways, I think I would have gotten a lot more out of it. And whenever I look back at my career again, very happy, still maintain the license, loved all the people that I worked with, but I was stuck in a damn box for eight hours a day and that wasn't good for me. That was not. And in the last part of my career like the last, like I don't know eight years of it I didn't even have a window and even though I would come home and like take your opinion, those things yeah, those things didn't work for me. And I think knowing, or at least having a sense, if you don't have like this is what works for me, this is what doesn't, but at least having a sense of that and then choosing a path or a career that is more aligned with those values and those kind of needs would have been much more fulfilling all the way around, would have been much more fulfilling all the way around. And so that's what I really.
Speaker 2:I value time at the top of my priority list now, like it's the most important thing I have, because it's the thing that gets. I mean it's draining all the time. I can't save time. You know what I mean? You can save money. You can save all kinds of things, not that.
Speaker 1:But you can't. You can't get that time back, and I completely agree with you. And to build on what you just said, one of the things I wrote down was don't be afraid to fail, don't be afraid to change your mind, don't be afraid to realize that you don't know everything and that that's okay You're not supposed to know everything and that you know. Similarly, I stayed in a career that I loved. In those beginning years I loved that job so much and I was thriving. But there was a turning point and it was right around the time I had kids and I couldn't give, you know, 90 percent of myself to that career anymore because I had my own family then to take care of. And you know, I really kind of did a little like self-destruction for a few years. And you know I've said it a million times I should have walked away a long time ago because what I have learned since is that there are a million things I can do with my skill set and I was so afraid that I had gone to college and graduate school and I had all this expert. You know, at that point I had a decade of expertise. Like this was my path. I was going to be a retired school psychologist someday, and the bottom line is like that doesn't have to be your path, just because you chose that as your education right, that that's a. There's a skill set that you're going to develop and you really can take those skills and apply it to many different types of professions. And so, similarly, you know and I say this to several friends now who want to take a leap I'm like, just do it. The time will never be right. If you wait for the right time, you will wait for the rest of your life. So just jump off the boat and you will swim eventually. At first you might feel like you're drowning, but eventually you'll find your footing or you will find your. You know, you'll remember how to swim and you will figure it out.
Speaker 1:And I think that we're so afraid to fail that we stay in unhappy or unhealthy situations for fear of failure and fear that. What are people gonna think? And this is another thing I would tell myself nobody really cares. Nobody's paying that much attention to you and if they are, that's on them because nobody really cares. You know, nobody cares. I was a school psychologist for 17 years. Nobody cares. I could have done it for 10 years. I could have done it for five years. Nobody cares, and uh. So yeah, I think. I think. Don't be afraid to fail, don't be afraid to say I'm not happy, I'm going to find something different to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that goes for anything Like. It's just on the same thread I have Don't stay in something that isn't working. It does not mean if that is the job, the relationship, the degree choice. If it's not working, then it's not working. Maybe you've tried everything, maybe you've done everything, but continuing to stay stagnant in a place that isn't working will lead to other negative consequences for you.
Speaker 2:I mean for your mental health, for your physical health, your emotions everything will start to deteriorate if you are staying in something that isn't good for you. And that gut feeling is strong, it's echoing you for a reason and at some point you just got to be like, like you said, take the jump, do it. You know there's so much, whenever we talked about this before, that people have a lot of fear with that. Your body physiologically doesn't know the difference between fear and anxiety. It is your thoughts in those moments that is dictating everything. Physiologically, your body respond in the same damn way. It is what you were thinking about, that situation that is dictating your emotional labeling at that point in time. And so I would definitely do that, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think too. I'm just thinking about, like my personal experience with my career. I became so attached to the families and the community I was working in and I felt like almost like this sense of self, like they need me. Who's going to be able to do this role if I'm not here? And a very good friend and colleague of mine said, jenny, somebody else will come along that will care about these kids. Somebody else will come and fill this office and do this job day in and day out, like love ya, but somebody else will assume the role, right, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that would probably be a lesson to myself in my 40s, or maybe even like mid 30s would be that you know again, like you're saying, you got attached to a job in a community. I got attached to a title I liked being Dr Stevens. That was kind of fun, right? You know you can walk around and flash that just about anywhere.
Speaker 1:My God, it's like immediate respect right, look at her.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, right, I didn't have any limits, I could waltz into anywhere and that was, I mean it's a bad thing in a way, but it was very, you know, ego attached. And I mean now it's almost whenever I hear that I get like the heebie jeebies, like somebody will walk up and be like hey, and I'll be like oh God you know not that I again, I'm ashamed or regret any of that.
Speaker 2:But it was just, you know, you just become so attached to one thing and then that not necessarily defines you, but it becomes so much a part of your ego that it just it's best to kind of like step away from it Again. Very happy with all the education, do I still use that? You know? What is it Prefix? Is that what it is? English wise Sometimes? Yes, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's a good thing that not to get so attached to a title of something too, or the idea of a title I think that was probably part of it in my 20s and 30s Like I just wanted to have that title, I wanted to have that position, I wanted to have that control, I wanted to have that power because I knew that it would help me reach other things within my life. But that in and of itself can also become its own poison as well, life, but that in and of itself can also become its own poison as well. And so you know, I'm not saying don't pursue the degree or the career, but be mindful of what you're attaching yourself to as part of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I didn't write that down, but I think be mindful of the people you're attaching yourself to. If I could go back and tell 30 somethingsomething Jenny, you know well, 29-year-old Jenny, right as she's about to walk down the aisle A it's the best decision you've ever made in your entire life. And B buckle up, bitch, because 30s are about to rock your world. You know, and it is about all I went through in my 30s losing my dad, you know, having a miscarriage. You know, losing deep friendships, experiencing mental health issues and I thought that you know 20s were stressful being in college and grad school and figuring out your. You know who you're going to marry and all those things, and I thought that was hard, but boy was I not prepared for what was about to come in that next decade. And so I think just realizing, like you know, get your mind right, because things are about to get hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no doubt, buckle up. I like that. Yeah, 30s are a really transformational time. I mean, I don't know that we give them. We focus so much on like midlife and these midlife crisis, whatever all this other stuff is. But 30s really are a burst of things happening, whether that be births, deaths, you know, career changes, divorces, like everything. Like a lot of things happen within that very delicate period of time. So, yeah, in your 20s, like, let's take some time to self-care and really just kind of ground ourselves so that way, whenever this shit really starts to hit the fan, that you have some good friends, that you have some solid points within your life that you can turn to, so that way it doesn't feel like it's all and everything you know. That's. That's a good point. It is that's. The 30s are a lot.
Speaker 1:These. I really learned how to create boundaries and it took me a long time. I would say I didn't really nail it until the end of my 30s and it's still a work in progress. You know you got every day. Those are things you have to work out.
Speaker 1:But learning how to create boundaries to protect yourself and you know, I think we don't realize how much other people and their behavior affect us sometimes and so just being sure enough of ourselves or confident enough in ourselves and our needs that you can create a boundary and really hold to it, and I think that just takes time.
Speaker 1:But you know, that was something that I really had to develop in the last decade, and so you know it's hard, but choosing yourself and your mental health is one of the most important things that we can do. It's not selfish, it's important in order for you to thrive and be the person that you want to show up as every day, that people pleasing role we've talked about a lot Like. If that's you, that's really hard for you to create a boundary, because you want everybody to be happy and you want to please everybody and make sure everything's homeostasis and that's really not your job to be happy and you want to please everybody and make sure everything's homeostasis, and that's really not your job. Your job is to make sure that your head's right and that your needs are met so that you can show up and be the best version of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and attract the kind of people then that you need and want to have in your life. You're not going to get those best people likely if you're in your worst spot. It's going to be really really hard. If you're in your worst spot, it's going to be really really hard if you're not taking care of yourself because you're not putting you as a priority at that point. So, yeah, yeah, and you do attract what you put out and that's so true.
Speaker 1:You know, I look at my life now versus in my 30s and the people, like your core group of people, like they're so much more aligned with who I am now versus who I was back then, like my core group was very much aligned to who I was then, you know, and she's still a lot of the same, but she's, she's come a long way. I'll say that there's been a lot of evolution there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is good. And again, like we talked about in the previous episodes, friendships and things like that fade. But maybe they're supposed to, because you know we're kind of moving in a direction, you know, with our life. And whenever people are again maybe not or stagnant or still or just kind of stuck, I don't know that it's helpful for us to continue to try to tug them out, because then it keeps us pulled back on something and not moving forward and moving on with our life. Even yeah, yeah, you've heard me say this a million times.
Speaker 1:If you listen to this podcast, one of the biggest things I would go back and tell my younger self is develop a meditation practice, learn to sit in silence with yourself and your thoughts and that will help you hone in on what your heart's greatest desires are. And that will help you hone in on what your heart's greatest desires are and that will help you kind of build like you're talking about that trajectory for your life, like what's the most important things to you, and help you align your behavior and your life to those goals and and help you to achieve those. And you know, there's one thing that I could do differently. There's not much I would do differently, but I would have started meditating like way back when, as early as possible, just to develop a really strong sense of self and to understand who I am and who I want to be and and how to you know how am I going to achieve this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it would have been nice to have known all those cool self-care things at that kind of point, huh, or maybe just even did them Gosh for sure. There's a few other things I was thinking about. I think that it's okay to go back and again, if you're having coffee with yourself or you know whatever at any point in time, to say that you did a good job, that in those there may have been some hard things that you did, or you know ways that you acted or respond to situations that at that moment you had. You were using all the skills, knowledge, tools, whatever that you had at that moment. And I think it's okay to go back and say you know what. You did a good job and you should be proud of what you did at that point because it helped you to kind of get to where you eventually wanted to be.
Speaker 2:It may have been hard, it may have had a lot of conflict associated with it. A lot of people may not like you or like you even today or anything else, but because you did that, it was a good thing and I just I think that that's important to go back and say you know what you did. You did good, you know not just that. We're making mistakes and learning. Yeah, you did good kid. This was the way you were dealt with at that point in time and at that moment it would have been easy to have I don't know given in. You could have become complacent. You could have given in, you could have acquiesced to groupthink or whatever else was happening, just kind of like giving in.
Speaker 2:It just sounds prettier.
Speaker 1:I've got that up in the dictionary.
Speaker 2:Well, I can't spell it, so good luck, but it would have been. I think that that would have been. I think that's a nice thing for you to do for yourself, because I do. I look back on my career at different points and you know, building and creating things often has a lot of conflict and a lot of discord. That can come with it a lot of strong opinions, but I think that it you know it was hard at those points but it was worth it.
Speaker 2:And again, telling yourself that you did a good job during those hard points, because now if you look back at all of that, then it's growing, flourishing, things are great, and if you hadn't been willing to do that, I don't know that that outcome would have been where it's at now. So sometimes you just gotta say you know what you did. Okay, you did all right, you did all right, not just you know you kind of screwed up on this one, or you know you could have handled this better or differently. You know, you know what you did, everything that you could have and you did a good job. Everything that you could have and you did a good job.
Speaker 1:So, cheers, you know, have have some time with that for a moment. Or just acknowledge what was the lesson there. Right, you might've, you might've, screwed up, but like what'd you learn from it? And then how'd you move forward? And acknowledging like how hard even that is to do to say like oh yeah, that was my bad and that won't happen again because I've I've certainly learned my lesson.
Speaker 1:I think the thing I would go back and tell young Jenny the most and this is still something I was so focused on in my 20s and in my 30s and I have somehow come to this just, I am who I am. I'm 5'2". I live a very active lifestyle. I eat pizza for dinner last night, I love to have a cocktail on the weekends, like it's okay, because whether you're five or 10 pounds heavier than you were a year ago, you know, certainly I don't want to let weight continue to creep up because I am concerned about you know, I'm always going to be concerned about health and wellness. You don't have to be about health and wellness, you don't have to be a size zero to think that you're worthy of happiness. And so I wish that I had not been so hard on myself and, you know, just constantly like trying to chase this idea that I thought was like the perfect figure, this idea that I thought was like the perfect figure. You know the perfect figure is like happy and healthy, and so that's taken me a long time to get here.
Speaker 1:Certainly, you know I'm like everybody else I want to look good, I want to feel good in my swimsuit, and I mean, even as recent as last year, I was really struggling. But something has flicked a switch in me in the last 12 months where I am just I'm really proud of, like the choices I make every day to choose my health and to focus on being healthy. And that doesn't just mean, like you know, a certain size or a certain weight, but like that I am truly taking care of my body, my soul, my mind, all the things. All of that is more important to me than how much I weigh. Can't remember the last time I stepped on the scale. Well, I can when I go to the doctor, but I purposefully look the other direction. Don't really care what the number says anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those things that we used to call them the fortune teller, like if you're a person that gets up and weighs yourself every morning. Whatever that number is dictates if you're going to have a good day or a bad day. Dictates if you're going to have a good day or a bad day.
Speaker 1:One thousand percent, yeah, lived it for two decades. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So not important.
Speaker 1:And I, you know, I was not one of those people that had babies and breastfed and weight fell off like my. My weight never fell off until I quit breastfeeding because I was so freaking hungry when I was breastfeeding. And so, like these people that are like, oh, I'm back in nice skinny jeans and I had a baby long swing, I was never her and I was never going to be her and I was really hard on myself after both babies and uh, you know just like why, why is this so easy for everybody else? Like I am doing fucking everything that they tell you to do, you know, and everybody else blinks in their back in their jeans. You know, that's just. That just wasn't me and I wish I would have had a lot more grace for myself, particularly postpartum.
Speaker 2:That was some of the hardest times, yeah that is a great piece of advice Don't get hung up on those types of things. I say this I think that this is important. I try to live my life by this. I think I've even said it on our podcast before. It's a quote from a musical Rent Forget regret, or life is yours to miss.
Speaker 2:And that was one thing I would always tell my patients. I can help you out with maybe almost anything that you bring in here, but I can't help you out with regret, like there's a line there that I'm not able to really be very assistive at. And so, with that, what I'm saying is, if you are feeling again within your gut a constant echo compelled to do something, do it. And I know we said that a minute ago, but for me it really comes down to like take the trip and have the life experience. Because within my career, within my life, I saw a lot of young people dying from cancers, from accidents their partners or spouses did, and that they would always say that they wish they would have done and it could have. I mean again, it could have been something like really small. Or even whenever I'm at other activities or events and I hear people talking like I really want to do this. I think that would be really good for me. My first thing is do it.
Speaker 2:We were at a conference with Jeff's work the last week and somebody was saying I really want to go to Ireland or something. It expressed a lot of emotion and thoughts and feelings about it. I was like, well, go. Well, I don't know how you get a passport, you get on a plane and you go. I mean, yeah, you might have to set a budget or all this other stuff, but don't make something more complicated than what it needs to be. If you have something that's important to you, it doesn't take a whole lot of complex steps, it takes simplification. So simplify it and then work the plan. Don't just leave this thing lingering out there, because if it's speaking to you, it's something that you're going to benefit from doing, and it might not just, you know whenever you get back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did it. That thing that you did at that point of time is going to benefit you for years to come. Like you know it, just, it just is what it is. Whenever you have those moments, you've got got to give into them because it's setting a foundation or giving you a gift that you thought was actually going and happening in that moment, but it's one that you're going to open up and really receive its benefits later. So just don't take those things. Take the trip. Take the trip.
Speaker 1:And that is it. One final thought for me and I had to. This wasn't on my list but I just popped in my head while you were talking about, you know, just shared experiences. I wish I would have asked you know, particularly my dad since he's gone but I wish I would have asked more questions about, like their life at that time in their twenties and thirties, like even though I was around as a kid, you kind of assume you knew things.
Speaker 1:But, like you know, my mom was. She texted me on Sunday and she was like, oh, you're watching, you know, early morning CBS. I'm like no, mom, I don't watch TV. And she's like, oh well, they're talking about this like battle of Saigon or something. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. She goes that's what your dad was involved in with Vietnam. He was a Marine and he was at the end of Vietnam. And she was like, yeah, he had PTSD from that.
Speaker 1:She's like telling me and I'm like I never knew that. Like I never, I never once asked him about his experiences in the Marines. I knew it was something he was very proud of and you know like, but it was. I never asked him. Just like, well, tell me some stories. Let me write these down to tell your grandkids someday. Like I, I wish I had you know. My mom's family does a great job, but they tend we, when we all get together, we tend to tell a lot of stories, we retell stories, so they're sort of ingrained in me. But I didn't necessarily have that experience with my dad's family and so, yeah, I wish I would have you know, not just like asked the questions, but like maybe wrote down the answers, because you do forget things as you get older and I wish I you know, I wish I knew what his experience was like.
Speaker 2:No, I think that's great, yeah, even of your grandparents or their experiences with things, absolutely.
Speaker 1:If you still have your grandparents in your 20s and 30s. God bless you, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. What a gift.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but sit down and ask some questions, fill those blanks in. It makes it. You may not again. You may not understand the purpose of doing it now, but the gift is given later.
Speaker 1:So take it, or even like a respected person. Yeah, or even like a respected family, friend or person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in your life, like right, take the time, take the time. And again it may seem like a hassle, whatever we call them visits. Up here we're going for a visit, which means you don't know how long you're going to be staying in a place it's going to probably be awful in that present moment, yeah, but maybe 15 years from now.
Speaker 2:There's a nugget that was given in that visit. That is going to be a whole lot and it's all going to make sense. So take the time to do the visit time to do the visit, make the visit.
Speaker 1:People don't visit anymore.
Speaker 2:Just go sit on the porch have a visit, have some tea, listen to the birds.
Speaker 1:God, we're right, listen to our advice. Um, but true, have the visit, have the visit. Well, I've enjoyed coffee with our younger self today, I know.
Speaker 2:How about that?
Speaker 1:I hope she heeds the advice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope she's proud, right, right I hope she's proud. I think she is.
Speaker 1:I mean I know she is yeah. So if you've got a younger sibling, you're a loyal listener. Send this to your younger sibling, your loyal listeners. Send this to your younger sibling. Hopefully they'll get a little nugget of information, a little nudge maybe, to think about some of these things You're just not aware. We're so wrapped up in ourselves at those ages it's hard to and that's the gift of still being alive is you can reflect and learn from it.
Speaker 2:And thanks to Seth too, because, sweet Seth, he helped to come up with this topic whenever he's coming up with such great ideas. And so thanks to Seth, because this was one of his few ones. And then we were sitting there thinking about it. I was like, yeah, I wish that's a good one. That's a good one and it's trending, as Rachel would say.
Speaker 1:And we were sitting there thinking about it, I was like, yeah, I wish that's a good one. That's a good one and it's trending as.
Speaker 2:Rachel would say I know she's big on it, it's trending, it's trending.
Speaker 1:All right, y'all. That's all we got for this week. Until next week. Glylus, we're out.
