The LYLAS Podcast
If you know what LYLAS stands for, then this podcast is for you! Two besties since middle school turned moms and psychologists dish on "the good, the fun, and the yucks" of life! We're tackling all things mental health, "mom balance" (whatever the hell that is), transitions in life (divorce, career, aging parents, parent loss, loss of friendships), self-care, travel, healthy habits, raising kids, and allllllll the things us midlife mamas are experiencing. We hope each week listeners feel like they just left a good ol' therapy session with their bestie! We'll dish on all the tips and tricks to keep your mental health in check and enjoy this thing called life! Meet your life's newest cheerleaders-- Sarah & Jen! LYLAS!
The LYLAS Podcast
The LYLAS Podcast, Season 4, Episode 72, "Turning Solitude into Sound with Special Guest Seth Celdrán"
What sparks the creative journey of a young artist? How can we as parents better nurture our kids with "non-traditional paths/ interests? Meet Seth Celdrán, our exceptionally talented producer and mixer, who has been an indispensable part of our podcast. At just 20, Seth's musical journey has been extraordinary, shaped by a supportive family and a profound intuition that allows him to follow his heart. Now residing in Austin, Texas, Seth's story unfolds as he shares his path from a budding interest in drawing and costume-making to music production and beyond. Find out how Seth's creativity blossomed in unexpected ways during the COVID pandemic, offering a fresh perspective on turning downtime into opportunity.
He shares valuable insights on using mindfulness as a tool to maintain focus and well-being, especially for neurodivergent individuals. Seth's story of self-discovery emphasizes the importance of nurturing a healthy relationship with oneself. Through meditation and reflection, Seth reveals how these practices have contributed to his personal and professional growth. As parents listening to him, we are both beyond proud of his achievements and wish we'd been as insightful, like yesterday, lol!!! Cheers to Seth and his generation of shapers and dream chasers! Find Seth on Instagram and on all music platforms!!! https://linktr.ee/sethceldran
Please be sure to checkout our website for previous episodes, our psych-approved resource page, and connect with us on social media! All this and more at www.thelylaspodcast.com
welcome to lilas. We're back after a little bit of a break. I feel like I don't know uh, so welcome back where. Uh, we've got a special guest this week. I'm pretty excited about this.
Speaker 3:We have the most special guests ever, because we've been doing this podcast four seasons now. We mentioned his name all the time on here, probably not as much as we should. He is the mastermind, he is the genius. He has helped me out since this whole thing ever became an idea and he's gifted in every single way. It's been a true pleasure and honor of my life to have watched you grow up. I know here come the tears.
Speaker 3:I know, but it is Seth. Seth Seldron, our producer, our mixer, our main guy, is on the podcast today. So this is a broad generation podcast. We usually say it's for you know. If you know what LILAS stands for, this podcast is for you, Not today. This is for every single person out there, because we are hitting some fun, cool topics and we're just honored to have you here for it. So how's that, Jen?
Speaker 2:Damn, that is a lot to live up to. What's up Lylas listeners? How are we doing today? I'm so excited to be here. I have been staring at these beautiful ladies' faces, listening to their voices, for over a year now, probably Almost two.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, you make us sound cool and I think you deliver on that. Every time I listen to an episode I'm like wow, this sounds legit. It sounds like we know what we're doing. And it's really Seth knows what he's doing. That's it.
Speaker 2:And he makes us look good. I think it really is a group effort. I mean, good editing goes a long way, but also, like you guys have improved so much since the first episode, like you're locked in and you have a flow and you know you know what you guys are doing now, which is it's, that's also been cool to watch.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's sweet.
Speaker 2:Did you listen to podcasts before you started editing a podcast? Um, yeah, probably a little bit Okay, but I mean, compared to, like, music production, editing a podcast is like nothing.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean there's it's two voices. You know, with a song there's, you might have 10 voices plus a million instruments, multiple microphones on an instrument, all sorts of things that you have to edit and change about it.
Speaker 3:So Well, but just in hearing you even talk about this, your expertise in music and production and all of this, I think, comes clear to everyone. But the fact is is you're 20 years old, you're getting ready, turn 21 here in a few days and I hope everybody follows you on Instagram and picks up your music on I think it's blast on all you know music platforms. But how did you even like get into this? Because I remember you always being very artsy and very musically inclined. So can you just tell the viewers just a little bit, like give them a snapshot is like Seth as a kid and how you got to this space where now you're living halfway across the country, moved out there with no one except Martha, your sweet dog, and you've been a no-god lover and you just made it. So give us a little bit of a snapshot, because we love you, we know you, but we want our Lylas listeners to know your story too.
Speaker 2:Well, I think made it is a bold word choice. But yeah, grew up in a little small town, west Virginia. I grew up in Lesage, so it was a town of about like 800 people, I think, and I think that was honestly a really good thing. I think I felt a little bit lonely as a kid but also we're home so much and kind of out in the country and there's not really that many kids around in your neighborhood. So I'm just in a room doing pretty much exactly what I do in here, but just, you know, as a kid. But my grandpa played guitar and he was a really big inspiration for me, kind of one of the main drivers that I was like, oh that's cool, I like whatever's happening there, and there was always just a lot of music playing around my house and everything. And I think we'll touch on this a little bit later.
Speaker 2:But I think I'm also just really lucky to grow up with parents that were just super duper supportive from the get go. Like any little artistic hobby or weird whatever the hell that I wanted to try when I was a kid, they were just like yep, well, what do you need? Let's make it happen. So I originally was super, super into drawing and physical art and that sort of thing. And then I also always really loved costumes and playing, dress up and that sort of thing and I got into kind of making props for videos and movies. And that got me really into special effects, makeup, so like making up zombies and like cuts and burns and that that whole sort of thing. And then that got me more into like actually filming it. And I think I'm also really lucky to grow up in the age of like YouTube and technology, where you know those things are so available to you. I had an iPod touch as a kid that had a camera on it. Then I would just make videos there. My dad had a computer that had iMovie. I would just pop them in there and just mess around with stuff and that kind of became a real love for me and honestly, that's what I thought I was going to do with my life. I really wanted to do VFX and behind-the-scenes movie stuff, behind-the-scenes movie stuff.
Speaker 2:And then I started guitar lessons around seven or eight years old and really loved that and kept up with that all through 18 when I moved out from West Virginia and came to Austin Texas, I'd say once I got around to middle school. That's when things really solidified, like, okay, I love music, this is what I want to do. So I joined orchestra, started playing cello, then picked up drums and then bass and then piano. I started really diving deep into like getting good at those things. And around that time I was also getting into live looping, like when I don't know if you've ever seen those guys a lot of times sitting at a restaurant or something. But they'll have a pedal on the ground and maybe a guitar and they'll do like a little drum thing stop, stop the pedal, and then that drum loops over and over. They'll put chords.
Speaker 1:I feel like ederan does this yeah.
Speaker 2:Perfect example.
Speaker 1:So I got really into doing that. What a genius. I love Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran is cool.
Speaker 2:I didn't used to love him so much and I watched that documentary they have on Disney+. Got a lot of respect for him after that.
Speaker 1:A lot Once you understand what his music is about it just it added a whole nother layer for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's an incredibly hard worker. But I got really into live looping that sort of thing and that kind of got me interested in like filling out a sonic space and layering instruments and making things work together. So that kind of got me into music production and songwriting. That all kind of just swelled up together. And then in my sophomore year of high school I finally had some songs and some recordings that I was happy with and so I put those out together and um just kept pursuing that throughout high school while still maintaining the videography stuff for work. So I was shooting a lot of like weddings, real estate, commercials, social media content, that sort of thing and I saved up money doing that. And then I moved to Austin when I was 18. Like pretty much as soon as I got out of high school I was like I'm ready to go. Why Austin?
Speaker 1:How did you pick Austin Texas?
Speaker 2:Well, first off, if you've never been, it's an amazing city. A lot of people I mean it's definitely like growing and becoming a much more major city, I think. But when I told a lot of people I was going to Austin, they're like Texas. Why are you going to Texas? But it's such a beautiful, creative, vibrant city where I mean you can just really like you can feel the happiness of other people, like people are happy to be here.
Speaker 1:Especially music lovers, like it's got a music scene like no other. I mean, I'm sure Nashville has something similar, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there is a great music scene here, great art scene, a lot of major festival type things you have South by Southwest ACL.
Speaker 2:There's a great music scene, but it's also growing in a lot of ways and that's exciting to me. I want to be a part of that, as opposed to going to somewhere like Nashville or LA or New York, where just huge, major, major industry, insane competition, I I like the idea of coming here and like growing with the scene. I feel like I just said so much. That's a podcast, though, I guess that's the point that's so interesting.
Speaker 1:Just the whole like how you sort of have found your way, but you sound like a super motivated person in general, like you were doing shit in high school. I definitely wasn't doing it.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean it was because I I mean I can't stress to you how much I fucking hated school, like, like I was just just dying to get out of there every single day and just go home and do this because I just knew that was what I love doing and I hated doing what other people were telling me to be doing.
Speaker 1:It was not your happy place at all. Oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I liked. I started to like it the more and more that we started to get like electives and like classes that you can choose, that you kind of enjoy. But, oh my God, I hated school, not for like being bullied or anything like that, like I just just did not, it wasn't too hard or anything like that, it just wasn't your cup of tea. Yeah, no, I mean, I made good grades, but I was just like it just felt like let's get this over with. That's how it felt for me tragic and awful thing.
Speaker 3:We can all have our own opinions about it, but that's, I think, whenever you guys were really able to kind of like bloom and have a lot more freedom with your creativity or with your process and you know, even with Cameron and you know he was able to golf more. So it was like all of a sudden you guys that have these real eclectic like interest and things like that that were time consuming, that you didn't get a lot of opportunity to kind of dive into that hit, and now you have like space and opportunity to kind of do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100 percent, absolutely. That's why I said I put my first two songs out sophomore year, because that was when COVID hit and I had time to just sit down with it every single day and our school made a rule that your grades couldn't go below whatever they were whenever school let out. I had like A's and B's so I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna not do shit and just do music and um, so, yeah, I just got to pretty much stay home and do that all the time and I think, yeah, it was tragic, but also that was a really really. I don't think bloomful is a word, but I'm going to say a bloomful time for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say for some people like Seth, he was like yes, I don't have to go to school, it was not so tragic.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you, I think, produced a music video for us, and then you guys did a movie too. You produced an entire, you wrote a script and kind of pieced together songs for an entire movie that you guys put out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we sure did For Jeff, your husband's band, whose music I genuinely love. I mean, I had fun working on those projects because the music was actually like fun to listen to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that was really really cool. So yeah, we kept you. Seth's been busy with us for a bit.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have. Hopefully it continues that way.
Speaker 1:I would say Sarah can always come up with a project.
Speaker 2:That's for sure.
Speaker 1:You do, you create things all the time. I love it Well.
Speaker 3:I'm glad it works out for everybody.
Speaker 2:Do you guys consider yourselves creative people, do you?
Speaker 3:guys consider yourselves creative people. I think I'm creative, but I'm not at all like musically inclined. You know, like I can't sing, I can harmonize, or I can get on a stage and I'll dance or I'll be very theatrical. But I mean, I've got a piano behind me and it's Jeff's and Rachel's Cameron also plays it, but no, no, no music here.
Speaker 2:I'm not asking about music. I mean I think creative, yeah, creativity is any, any creative solution that you come up with to some problem. I think that's creativity, that's true.
Speaker 3:That's true, it's great. What about you, jen?
Speaker 1:Am I a creative person? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I have creative thoughts. It's my execution that gets me in trouble. So, like I might be able to think of something really creative, I'm just never going to follow through and actually complete it. Uh, or very little like it needs a lot. I need a lot of structure and supports along the way. I'm just a natural procrastinator, so has it?
Speaker 2:has it always been that way or do you feel like that's probably also slowed down, because, I mean, you have kids and a bajillion responsibilities? Always been that way?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wish I could say it was just having children, but as long as I can remember, I've been this way and it's like it's a constant. You know, and I often say like I'm the idea man and then my husband makes it happen. He actually makes like these ideas come to fruition, because otherwise they would just live in my head, especially Halloween costumes like things like that. Like I can think of stuff all day, but I'm never going to like put in the effort nine times out of ten.
Speaker 2:That's still creativity.
Speaker 3:Or something like that.
Speaker 2:I would say that's definitely still creativity, though.
Speaker 1:Right, like I'm just not good at like crafting, like if I'm not good at it, I'm not interested in it. I'm very typical.
Speaker 2:Add profile in that way. I think we all are right. I took my adderall this morning.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm able to focus lock in and have a conversation yeah, exactly, get some stuff done. But even today, like I put my workout off until we, so I had exactly 30 minutes before we had to get on here to record Like I will I thrive under pressure is what I always say, but like I'll wait until the very last minute. So I'm so impressed when I hear about a 20 year old, almost 21 year old, that's like got his shit together and like does all of these things and keeps them all.
Speaker 1:You know that's a lot to manage, right, you're trying to manage a lot as a young adult and figure out like who you are in the midst of all of that and when you're not. Like, at least for me, school gave me like a structure, as you can tell, like I need a structure, and like a plan and a path to follow, and so if I was just like making it up, I would, I would not be successful in any realm. Like you know what I mean. Like that takes a certain type of person too that can say, ok, I'm going to do things differently, but I still have to make all this work somehow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I've just always loved you said making things up. I've just always loved making shit up and just making your own world out of you know, whatever's around you, and that's kind of the approach I try to have with anything I make. So, you know, with the video stuff, it's not like I have crazy, crazy equipment. I mean I have some good stuff, but I also am very much about just like making the best possible thing that you can with whatever's around you. With the music stuff. I mean, obviously it looks like a lot and it is a lot, but at the end of the day, like the setup is not that crazy. I love trying to push the limits with whatever's available to you.
Speaker 3:Well, how do you do this, though, seth? I guess because I, I mean, I'm just sitting here like how, like, really, how do you manage, like, how do you get into your your own kind of flow state with this open like canvas that you have? And then the other side of this is also like scheduling gigs, you know, putting your name out, like there's also a very. It goes from being very abstract, almost mechanical, in a way that you have to balance both of these worlds in order to kind of put yourself out there. So how are you able to do this so well, tell us.
Speaker 2:Damn, I don't know. I mean that definitely is a difficult thing, like trying to balance that right side of your brain that has to, like, make shit happen and then that free flow side of your brain that just wants to da, da, da and make stuff. You know, um, I don't know. I mean, with the video stuff, I have people like you, a couple clients, on retainer, so it's nice to have those ongoing projects that I have a set amount of things that I need to make for them per month, and then I also just I mean I really, really, really and this has been a struggle for me feeling like I'm like lazy, or also maybe comparing myself to people that do have regular nine to five jobs where they're going to a place that maybe they don't necessarily want to be at.
Speaker 2:And truth is, I do get to be at home. I do get to work from home a lot of the time, editing this stuff and then working on music stuff. So I think that definitely helps and I try to prioritize free time and time to enjoy yourself and I think, just in general, as a person, I have always prioritized doing things that fulfill you, things that you actually want to do. That's something that you talk about a lot like obligation. If it feels like you should do it, you probably shouldn't do it and I mean I definitely abide by that. I think I just try to prioritize like happiness and getting fulfillment out of like everything, things that you actually love. I try to prioritize like a relationship with myself. I do a lot of meditation and journaling and research on trying to investigate what I'm feeling and and figure those things out.
Speaker 1:So yeah, You're going to be light years ahead of us, seth, to start that at your age. What I wouldn't give to go back in time and know. You know the profound impact that that would have on my life if I would have started that 20 years earlier. Not to say that like I wouldn't have made mistakes, but just like how much more supportive I could have been to myself you know, yeah, I feel like, like you said, it's changed my relationship with myself.
Speaker 2:It's changed my relationship with other people because I'm able to be there with them more. It's changed my relationship with music, with work. I mean, it really is like, especially for neurodivergent brains like ours, it really is like a natural centering thing.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I love that. I love that you take that so seriously, as like a kid because you are, you know, a young guy, a young adult Excuse me, you're not a kid, but you're a young adult but also as a male, like how often do we hear males talking about making meditation a priority for themselves? I've been begging my husband to make it a priority.
Speaker 3:So what does that look like for you? Like, what is your like? Do you have a routine that you go by with it, or do you just kind of do it whenever you feel like you need that type of like centering moment? Is it like Jen? Does it usually like once one of like her daily five first kind of things that she kind of wakes up and does like, how does that look for you?
Speaker 2:well, I just have a like a guided app that I use. I use open. I don't know what you guys use. Um, I use that and I try to do it in the morning before I start like a lot of work and stuff. Sometimes if I like I'm just too excited about a project and just want to get up and like start working. I lot of work and stuff.
Speaker 2:Sometimes, if I like I'm just too excited about a project and just want to get up and like start working, I'll do that, and then it ends up getting pushed off till a lot later in the day. But I generally try to start the day with it because I feel like it's a good tone setter for the rest of the day. And if I start in the evening, then I'm thinking about all the things I did that day. So try to do it first, ish thing in the morning, um, and then sometimes I'll do one middle of the day, or if I'm headed to a function or something, I'm feeling a little anxious, I might pull over for a second and do just like a five minute breathing thing and then come in cool as a cucumber, uh, and then, or I'll, I'll do some at night too. It helps me fall asleep. I've been trying to replace scrolling and stuff like that before bed with just breathing.
Speaker 3:He's so wise, he's so wise.
Speaker 1:What are we doing? Giving advice? We should be listening to you, seth.
Speaker 2:Oh geez.
Speaker 1:We need you.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'll join every week. I'm not kidding. I've been wanting to be on this thing for a long fucking time.
Speaker 1:How have we never thought of this before, jeez?
Speaker 3:I know I was so shocked. I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I know who would have thunk it, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love, I like cameras and talking and I like you guys Actually no.
Speaker 1:I love you guys no we love you too, we do I heard you say like your parents have always been super supportive of whatever you got into right, whether it was like drawing or whatever. What else would you say? Because I'm assuming your parents are in their 40s, they're roughly, are are.
Speaker 2:They're in their fifties yeah.
Speaker 1:They're in their fifties. Okay, um, like what else? Because you you went the non-traditional path right. You could have. You know, in in life there's typically you like go to college or you go straight into the workforce, or if you're an artist, you might be exploring some of those. You know some different options. But what are some other things as parents that you think you would? You know that your parents did for you that we could take away from that. That's how we can support our kids that maybe don't choose. You know the college route.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think just from the get go I was always encouraged to be myself, whatever facet that may come.
Speaker 2:So always let me me dress myself, always let me cut my hair, however the hell I wanted to um, we just had a pretty like free household to grow up in, um, so I think they were always supportive in that sense. I don't I don't feel like I was ever forced into like doing things I didn't want to do. I feel like a lot of parents maybe will kind of just force their kids to do sports or whatever. Or I mean, not that there's anything wrong with this, but we didn't grow up with any specific religion or anything, so I wasn't like really ever told to believe anything. We were just kind of encouraged to, you know, make our own beliefs from that. So I think things like that just encourage kids to think for themselves and if it seems like they're naturally drawn towards something, maybe try to encourage that and not what you want them to do or what you wish you would have done when you were a kid or whatever.
Speaker 1:Such a good lesson for us parents to remember, though, because it is hard. It's hard not to either put on what you wanted as a kid, maybe, and didn't get Like to do like. I find I do that for myself. Like the things that I didn't get, I overdo it.
Speaker 1:And half the time. That shit's not even important to my kids, but it's important to me. So there's like all of this excess stress and things that we put on ourselves to make ourselves feel better or fulfilled in some way. Um so just listening to hear like do you say that? I was like like good reminder to not put that on our kids, right, right, just let them be like who they are, what they like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean I'm sure that's easier said than done too, because at the end of the day, like it's all of our first time living, we're all just trying to figure it out and basing what we're doing off of our past experiences and whatever context we have for that. So I mean you can't put I feel like you can't put too much fault on yourself, because we're all just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2:I cannot, that's for sure I cannot imagine having another life to take care of. Obviously I'm 20 and that's not my job right now, but like martha's enough and sarah, how old were you when you had Cam?
Speaker 3:21,.
Speaker 1:I think I was 21.
Speaker 3:You were basically Seth's age.
Speaker 2:And like being in school and pursuing a very high level thing like I just could not be me right now You'd pick your day your world over, that huh yeah, I mean, I think it'd be awesome to have kids one day, but especially, that's not even anything.
Speaker 1:I can hand you the golden ticket I know right, yeah, he is.
Speaker 3:Well. I, I think that all those like I even I talk about this a lot Like I couldn't have picked better people for my son if I picked them, like every single one of you guys is the absolute best human beings I know, like I call them all I say, like we have like six kids instead of like the two that we have, because you guys are just so close and so mature, instead of like the two that we have, because you guys are just so close and so mature. And you know it's it's neat to hear you talk about this because it sounds like even throughout your life you were just getting almost like, if we thought of like doses of confidence. You were just getting doses of confidence from the external world that really helped you to kind of take that big jump to your doubt. And when you don't have the stress of acceptance, then that fire of creativity is just able to be, I guess, flamed even more. Would you say? That's right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I feel like I definitely had what you're talking about in the home, and that was why it was so easy for me, when I came home, to just like express on the. On the other hand, I felt really boxed in by my environment especially West Virginia small town thinking um a lot of limiting beliefs around you and ideas of who you're supposed to be given, whatever your role is, you know, if you're a boy, you're supposed to act this way and dress this way and like these things, and uh. So a lot of times on the outside environment, I didn't feel like that was encouraged, and so it made me want to run home and just like create a world that I did love and did want to be in yeah, that's totally fair, and now you're in in Austin and it's all able to happen, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my gosh, I love it here, keep.
Speaker 1:Austin, weird man.
Speaker 2:Heck, yeah, have you ever been?
Speaker 1:So my brother and sister-in-law live in Austin and my nephew and my in-laws have a place there. So yeah, we've been a couple of few times. I've actually been to Willie Nelson's farm before I have too, that was one of the best days of my life. All day I kept going. This is one of the best days of my life. It really was. It was one of the coolest things I've ever been to in my entire life where they have, like the old western town set up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like the saloon somebody's playing in the saloon, somebody's in the chapel. There's like a revival tent yeah, like all his old horse or it's like an old horse rescue and then his farmhouse, like since way back you know yeah, um, he's got a little weed shop in there yeah, he's the coolest, I love he's, he's.
Speaker 2:He really is such an inspiring figure and such a something that people associate with austin because he's done so much for I mean music in general, but specifically austin and texas music. Like to this day he performs a lot around here and, like pours a lot of resources into growing that sort of thing?
Speaker 2:that's cool. I saw him at uh acl this past year or not. This year in October they had Chris Stapleton as the headliner and this like little old gray thing hobbles out. It's before they have those big screens on the side of the stage or anything. I'm just like I see these two braids I go is that Willie fucking Nelson? My mom's like no way, that's not Willie Nelson. And then they turn the lights on in the screens and everybody goes crazy. My mom's like no way, that's not Willie Nelson. And then they turn the lights on and the screens and everybody goes crazy and they're like holy shit, that's.
Speaker 1:Willie Nelson.
Speaker 2:And he did like two songs and it was just, it was just crazy, it was amazing.
Speaker 1:So similar kind of story. We were leaving Luck Reunion. You know you park out like outside of the old Western. It's an old movie set from like the 80s or 90s, that he was in an old Western but you park out from it and so everybody's walking like out to their cars after the last band when it was over, and there was this like piece of shit, like S10 truck like coming up, like like you know, swimming upstream of all these people like walking, and I turn and look and it's willie nelson. Just finds out, he gives me a thumbs up and he just kept trucking right. I was like guys, that was willie nelson and that like piece of shit s10 right there. It was so funny, um, and he did, he just drove and he like went through the gate, went up to his little palace up there.
Speaker 2:That's so cool. He's such an awesome guy and I think that's a prime example of somebody that has prioritized like joy and happiness and just doing things that you love consistently, and I feel like that's probably why he's such an old, happy man.
Speaker 1:Such a national treasure is what we call that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, snoop Dogg, belly Parton, a national treasure is what we call that yeah, I have so much respect for older artists like that I mean one because that's the music I grew up on and that's the music I love and that's the music and people that I try to emulate with what I do but I just have so much respect for, like rolling stones, paul mccartney, willie n, like all these really old artists that are just out there still doing it. They don't have to. They are most. A lot of them are billionaires.
Speaker 3:It's like they clearly just love it.
Speaker 2:They just want to play for people, and I think that's so cool that I don't know to keep that alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, with, I mean, you kind of said this a minute ago and I got stuck on it With this inspiration that you have from these folks, these other artists, how do you always kind of come to that like place of prioritizing, like that happiness, like how do you cause shit happens? I mean, you know, in all of our lives, but you just have this glow about you that just continues to just emanate. But where do you like, like how do you continue to come back from that, like if do you have a shitty day, like if you have a shitty day.
Speaker 3:How does it come back?
Speaker 2:you're doing oh yeah, I mean, I'm a very like just in my head individual. I think a lot of creative people probably are and so I generally just like try to go in rather than like try to seek external things and journal about things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been in a funk lately. Actually. I was like really just thinking about that these last couple of weeks, like that weird in between Christmas and Thanksgiving I've just been like off my game, like not. And so today I was like, okay, if I don't do anything else, I got to get back to like the things I do every single day, back to the routine and like everything else will follow. Like I know it will just have to get back to the routine.
Speaker 2:Well, and like I feel like it's probably easy for me to say, because, like, I have my my things, but outside of that I don't have any real responsibility to anybody else. You have so much obligation and just things that you have to do in your life, and especially this time of year, like I can't imagine the stress of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's like anything, it's like what you prioritize. You know, I've just wasted time, like you name it. I've probably done and wasted time doing that. You know, like it's just more of like making your mental health a priority, and I think that's where like the routine and that structure, that like ritualistic structure, comes into play for me, because when I don't do that, I just it like starts like, you know, I just don't feel good about myself and then you know, like it starts this whole like spiral where if you can just get back like just working out today and I hadn't run since Friday, what's today, wednesday, like I never go five days without a workout, like that's just not me.
Speaker 1:You know, it's just things like that, where you're like, if I can just and I did not want to do it today, in fact, I put it off till 11 o'clock- yeah. You know it's just stuff like that, but like it's it, like you get back and then you're like okay, there I am, like I'm still here. I just took a brief pause. I don't know am I the only person that does this no like weird weeks where I'm like I don't know who I am, I don't know what my name is I'm not journaling.
Speaker 2:I'm not doing what I normally do absolutely I think, routine and schedule and that sort of thing is huge for me. Like I said, I didn't thrive in like school structure, but that idea of structure, I need that to feel like a person. And it's wild how, like you know, we know what the tools are, we know what is good for us, but sometimes we just choose not to use them and it's like I'll fall out of routine and then it's like I'll fall. I'll fall out of routine and then it's like I go on a morning walk with martha, do a meditation, take a workout, take a shower. Then I'm like, oh, I'm actually fine, nothing was wrong right, he's back yeah you know, yes, that's their truth.
Speaker 1:So I would like to tell you it gets better in 20 years, but it doesn't. I'm still the same way like I'm like, I still have to, and part of it is like we've created. It's a structure or a ritual we that we created right, so we, in theory, enjoy most of it right, because it's something you want to do. I think that's why we tend to thrive in these like created routines.
Speaker 2:I have a question. I can't wait. What is a piece of advice that you wish you would have had at my age?
Speaker 1:Don't waste your money on stupid shit. Okay, wow, don't do it.
Speaker 3:Well yeah, I think mine was a little different because again, I was pregnant with Cameron or just had him, and then getting diagnosed with type one diabetes. So it was a whole bunch of different things all at once. I think maybe well, it might have been maybe not to take things so seriously, Because whenever you're underneath those kind of like circumstances which again were self-imposed, except the diabetes thing that was, I pulled a luck card on that one, but I think that it forced you into a place where you just have to be so focused on. I don't know that success is the right word, but achievement, like you have to push, it's always a push, and so there's no room for really like fun or other types of I don't know that enjoyment's the right word, but you just have to stay so focused, for at such a young age for such a period of time, that there wasn't a lot of flexibility, and so it would have probably been not to take things so seriously, but I don't, I can't think of I could probably have loosened up some, but I don't know how that would have. I don't also know how that would have worked, but I don't know how that would have. I don't also know how that would have worked. But that's just kind of that's the I don't know that would be it, because I was pretty tired.
Speaker 3:I got, I think even after that, more tightly wound after I got into my career and into advancing like education, and you know what I mean. You're trying to make a name for yourself. You're trying to like you know what I mean, Like be this big thing, and I mean right. Obviously none of that's necessary right now because I'm a substitute yoga teacher and do hobby podcast, thankfully to my husband. But I don't know. I think that that winding of that rope got really tight during that time and it's really challenging to unwind it now, 20 years later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could totally see that for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a very hard line to draw of, like, how do I take myself seriously and the things in my life seriously enough to you know, care about them and be good at them and excel at them, but also understand that, like almost nothing is personal and like 99 of things are not actually about you when they feel like they are?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be. This might sound super cliche, but I think, too, like just believing in that you can truly achieve anything if you're willing to work for it. I truly believe that's anything in life, that you can achieve it if you're willing to work at it and make decisions that align with whatever it is. But just like that belief in self you know, I was never quite sure of myself like I am now.
Speaker 2:That comes with age, I'm sure. Yeah, I feel like that could also tie into the question you asked about what could parents do to encourage their kids to be themselves. Is that right there? Just instill the belief that if you work hard enough at anything, you can probably achieve it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that it may look differently than what you thought it would. Being open to that and that excitement of what you know, there's so many possibilities. I love to hear people's stories or especially people that have been around a long time, like in their 60s like how they got to it. You know, some people have some fascinating stories and if you don't take the opportunities as they come to you in life, you know you may miss out on like a huge part of your story. Whatever it is and like you know I think it's so it's. There's like a confidence that comes in just knowing that, like it, it all works out in the end the way it's supposed to for most people. I won't say that for everybody, but for most people it does. I mean bad things are going to happen. That's life. That's a guarantee in life.
Speaker 2:Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:You're going to experience a hardship, but I don't know. There's some resolve in me now that I'm like throw it. No, I'm not saying that universe, don't throw it at me. I overlook a very serene outside. I'm always like talking to the universe right here from my desk Like I'm just kidding. But you know, I feel like we can handle anything and I definitely didn't feel that way at 20 years old. I'm still calling my mom every five minutes.
Speaker 3:Or overconfidence doesn't really do you much good either.
Speaker 1:I would also say that it's not always the most helpful beast, so there's balance, for sure, but before we wrap it up, I have to know what does a day in the life of a 20 almost 21 year old musician in Austin Texas look like it depends, but I usually get up around, yeah I usually get up around like 8, 30 or 9 ish.
Speaker 2:I'll walk my dog martha and I'll do a meddy. That's what I call it. I call it my meddy. My girlfriend and I were like, did you do your meddy today? Okay, are you ready for your meddy? Um, so I do writing sessions, help people write their songs, production for people. If I'm not doing that, I'm doing production for myself. So I'm either writing songs or recording songs that I've written. I also play in multiple bands, so I do instrumentation for that sort of thing. I have my band, so we have practice every week and I try to keep things tight with that. If we have a show, I usually try to knock out most of my responsibilities before like three that day, then just chill out and focus on the show and be in a good headspace for that.
Speaker 1:So it depends on the day day and it kind of means having your hand in a lot of different pots, I think, but in general I'm I'm getting to be creative pretty much all day, every day, which is and you have to be flexible, right, certain things, like I'm sure, come up and you can't do, maybe, what you had on your schedule and so like I'm really impressed like that you keep it all, keep it all flowing, and I'm sure there are days you miss a mark, but like, just in general, that's a lot of things to keep a lot of balls in the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's hard because they all require a different type of focus and mental energy in a different part of your brain, but I love all of it. I love music so much that I just want to know everything about the process, from start to finish, from practicing and becoming a good musician and performance to recording and the technicalities that go into that making a song, performing a song, playing for a live audience Just all of it.
Speaker 1:I just love it.
Speaker 3:It's so cool. He's such a stud. Yeah, yeah, watching his videos and uh clips on instagram, it is just such a I mean stage presence, like you just commanded, and it is so amazing to see. I cannot wait to see it live.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be in the front, like just I need y'all to come out to a show that'd be so fun I know I actually am thinking about doing the austin half marathon.
Speaker 1:I think it's in february. Maybe we could. Okay, sarah, look at our schedules, here we go. That'd be an excuse to go to austin that's just pulled a bunch of like races we could look at. There's something else. I was just going to ask you. Oh no, I wasn't going to ask you. I did a little snooping on your social media. I think you have a girlfriend. I think you just mentioned you said girlfriend, I dig her voice, man. She's got a beautiful, beautiful voice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I just had to tell you that. Yeah, she went to Governor's School for the Arts in high school and sang all her life, but studied opera through that period and she's an amazing songwriter and we have a lot of chemistry musically too, which is really cool. So whenever she's here, we work in the studio and I'm helping her finish some of her songs up too, so that she can get some stuff out, because I'm like people need to hear this. You're so good.
Speaker 1:Well, let us know when it's ready. I would love to listen to some original stuff.
Speaker 2:And I'm working on my album right now, so trying to get that that's kind of taking over a lot of right now. That that's kind of taking over a lot of right now. I'm trying to take a little bit of a break from uh shows until like january I should just really try to focus on locking myself in here and just finishing things get it done cranking.
Speaker 3:What kind of album are you making? Is it like your original songs, a concept album? What do you got? What do you got cooking there, seth?
Speaker 2:yeah, so they're. So they're all original songs I have. I mean, I have like probably 50 songs written that I like. So I've just kind of been collecting all of those from pretty much the time I moved here two years ago to now and I feel like I've weeded out some now that I feel really, really good and confident about. I think I want that to be the album. So I feel like it will be pretty wide ranging in terms of style which I like. I feel like especially a lot of records from the 70s. You'll have a rock song and a folky song and you have a slow acoustic song and you might have a funk song. So I want to just have all of that song and you might have a funk song. So I want to just have all of that, all of those different things, but still being all-encompassing and feel like me and almost feel like you're in here with me.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so cool yeah, um, yeah my favorite thing in the entire world to do it. It's hard, though, because you know the fun part is bringing a song to life, and afterwards comes a lot of work and like a lot of code cracking and a lot of like driving yourself crazy. So it's so, so fun and so fulfilling and rewarding and just like get completely lost in your own little world. Writing a song, finishing a song, maybe I'll pop it into my computer real quick, and then I just get lost, like layering different instruments and stuff, and then it's like, okay, that's the demo I need to make, like the real version that will be on Spotify, and it's like, damn, that's when the work comes, when I kind of just want to get lost, like making more songs, so trying to balance all those things. It's it's hard to finish stuff sometimes, but I'm finally finally creeping up on some things that I'm really, really excited for people to hear about, and stuff that we've been playing live at the shows, but that's not out yet gosh, how cool.
Speaker 3:I can't wait. My husband, jeff, is going to be so pumped to hear all of this. He's going to be your biggest fan, I guarantee it.
Speaker 2:I love Jeff. I love Jeff. I love Cameron. I love your whole family. I love Penny. Everybody's so great.
Speaker 1:Everybody loves Penny.
Speaker 3:Penny gets the shout out.
Speaker 1:The girl.
Speaker 2:All right, seth, where can we find you? You can find me on all the social media things. So Instagram, seth Seldron Music. I'll spell it for you, because people have trouble S-E-T-H-C-E-L-D-R-A-N. S-e-t-h-c-e-l-d-r-a-n. Instagram, tiktok, all that stuff, and then on Spotify, itunes Apple stuff, and then on spotify, itunes, apple music, youtube, wherever you listen to music. Um, seth celdron c-e-l-d-r-a-n. We got about eight songs out, but I'm hoping to get more this year.
Speaker 1:That's the goal and we're gonna meet in person this year. I'm gonna put that as one of my goals of 2025 please, let's do it, we'll do austin I got all the mics.
Speaker 2:I got all the mics, all the cameras. We can do a podcast in here, live in stew oh wow, that'd be so fun, so cool yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I'm in. Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 1:This was so fun I know I see a recurring guest spot here. I just didn't want to throw that out. I feel like like I'm digging it. I feel like I know you, even though I don't really. So this is quite fascinating to me. I'm fascinated that you've hung with us this long, more than anything.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, it's great. I mean I love this gig and I love. I mean, like you said, you feel like you know me, I feel like I know so much about you Probably more than you know about me. Way about you, probably more than you know about me, way more than you probably want to know. There have been a couple times where I'm like I never thought I would hear Cameron's mom talking about this, but hell yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3:Right, Exactly, I know. And those are those days where I text you and I'm like Seth I'm so sorry, but we're talking about sex, or we're talking about X, Y and Z, and I'm like Jesus Christ. This kid was five and in my house, what am I?
Speaker 2:doing. Hey, it's how we all got here, ain't no?
Speaker 3:reason to hide from it. I know God bless them. Well, seth, I love you Just like you're one of our own. Here come the tears. I know it's just. I know it's. It's. Very rarely do I ever cry, but whenever I do, it's always about like the people in my life and it's on this damn show, God. No, but seriously, I mean just to see how beautiful your life has been and become and the fact that I know that you're doing what you want.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:You're making me cry too, Sarah.
Speaker 3:He's coming home for the holidays, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love you. I got to see you at Christmas and yeah, maybe we'll have some overlap at Christmas.
Speaker 1:We'll be home next week.
Speaker 3:Please, I'll be there. I'll be here. I'll be here till the 28th.
Speaker 2:So finally I'm in town. You're globetrotting somewhere.
Speaker 3:I know I know I know. Well, yeah we're, we're home till the 28th.
Speaker 2:So that's the plan, awesome? Well, I'll definitely make you, because I love, I love all you guys.
Speaker 3:Oh, we do too Well. Thank you so much for sharing your spirit, your song and just everything with us. We really, really, really, really appreciate it and just everything with us.
Speaker 1:We really really really really appreciate it. Until next time, Live List listeners, we out.
