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The LYLAS Podcast
The LYLAS Podcast, Season 4, Episode 71, "Woe is me or Thank you, Jesus? Turning Lemons into Lemonade"
Facing an unexpected flat tire or a dead battery can easily send your day spiraling into chaos, but what if there was a way to turn frustration into gratitude? Join us as we share personal tales from our own rollercoaster lives, illustrating how cultivating self-awareness and adopting effective stress management techniques can transform everyday mishaps into opportunities for growth. We promise you'll gain insights into balancing the chaos of life with a mindset that embraces gratitude for the moments that could have been far more stressful.
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Welcome to Lylas, your casual therapy session with two middle school besties.
Speaker 2:Gosh, we totally switched it up on you guys, didn't we?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we came up with that about five seconds ago. I'm tired of saying the same thing. We need something new, and let's call it what it is, although let's also say this is not medical advice. This is a conversation with a couple of mental health focused females some degrees in psychology and, yeah, talking about the shit that drives us crazy, or not.
Speaker 2:Yes, definitely. So we're maybe not even in the place or position to kind of give advice, but we're definitely here to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Right, we're here to validate your feelings. We feel the same way. Yeah, this is a good topic because, as I was just saying to Sarah, when I come up with these topics, I usually have like something in mind specific and I was apparently in a really good mood this day and today I'm not in a good mood, so I have like a different perspective today. So I just I like how it ebbs and flows. It changes from week to week, but yeah, talk about these things well, it's life right.
Speaker 1:At least we're being reflective of the fact that the consistency is inconsistency right, it's not always sunshine and rainbows, no matter how hard we try and I feel like we try really freaking hard to frame things in a positive way even when things don't go our way.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that that is definitely the truth. But everybody just kind of needs, I think, some of those moments just to woe is me.
Speaker 1:Here we are. What. What sparked this idea is I had I guess this was like two weeks ago. Now that I think about it, I also like to think like, what phase of my cycle was I in? Because I do think that also has an impact on how you perceive things and your. You know your reaction to things, obviously, but a couple weeks ago I was living large and I had a flat tire and then my car battery died while I had my daughter at dance lessons. And it was just interesting because we had. It was the week that we came back from our half marathon from the race.
Speaker 1:And so we had driven I don't know like over a thousand miles and my tire gauge light had come on and we just rolled with it. You know we filled it up a couple of times along the way, but we just rolled with it and if you didn't listen to that episode, we were in the middle of nowhere. So, like you know, a little dicey, probably in hindsight. Um, but we made it home safe and sound and then went up to get um, my tire checked and they were like, oh yeah, it was like too close, there was a nail. It was too close, they couldn't just patch it. I needed a whole new tire. So you know, I immediately was like, oh, thank God that didn't happen while we were on our trip, like that could have made that that trip a even longer, and that was the long, long haul and you know you always think about you're doing.
Speaker 1:You know, 80 miles an hour or more on an interstate with your family riding and you don't. You know, I don't want to blow out or something like that. So I'm always super grateful if, like that doesn't happen. Yeah, totally. But I feel like you also could be like, oh, I had to get a new. And I found myself saying that.
Speaker 1:So I got a new tire that was on like a Monday or Tuesday, and then I was at dance on Thursday or Wednesday, I don't know what day, and for whatever reason, I always like drop her off and go do something. I'll run to the grocery store, I'll go do some sort of errand, and for whatever reason, I was like I'm just going to sit here and Jeff was out of town, and so it was just me. And yeah, I went to crank my car and the or? No, he was in town. I'm lying to you, he was in town, he had just gotten back in town. I went to crank my car and the battery wouldn't start, and so I again was kind of like freaking out.
Speaker 1:I called Jeff, he comes over, he jumped me. I went straight there and they were like, oh yeah, you got a dead battery. You know I had to replace it. And I was like, well, thank God this didn't happen on Tuesday or Monday, when you were out of town. Who would have come to jump my car? You know, I would have driven to the grocery store and then I couldn't get back to get Jolie from dance. Like I, my mind started like thinking about all those things. I'm like thankfully I was here and like I could just go grab her and we just had to wait, you know, and it's like we would have been fine.
Speaker 2:I would have called triple A, blah, blah, blah, but the point being like, thank you, jesus, for taking care of me once again and not stressing me out even more than than necessary yeah, and those are great examples, but it just it could have easily is what you're saying just went the other way, like where we're sitting there, like oh my god, why does this stuff keep happening? I just dealt with this car yesterday and here we are again and it's just. What is that dividing line between moments where we I mean we're deciding maybe not consciously deciding, but we're deciding what our reaction is going to be to that situation. So what does come down to that like deciding line as to which path we're going to go down?
Speaker 1:I think a lot of it has to do with our stress management, like when you were talking, when you were just saying that I'm like what Cause? I definitely could have seen myself a couple of years ago when I was running the rat race, you know, you know, working long hours and shuttling kids between schools and all the things, um, that would have total, totally frazzled me to like you know, need a new car, like, just, it's not even about, unfortunately, it's not even about, like, spending the money to get these things.
Speaker 1:I can, you know, have access to that. But it was more of like I freak out if, like, I can't be there for my kids, if I can't pick my kids up, if I can't get where I need to be to be with them. And so I think one thing that certainly has helped me as a like reduction in stress, job stress, that kind of stuff. But I also, you know, do that gratitude journal almost every day and I think it just sort of sets the tone for every day of like gratitude first versus like well, let's think of all the things that went wrong today.
Speaker 1:You know, I also do peak and pit at the dinner table and we always, you know, do the peak first and the pit because it's it's good to recognize these. Know we also do peak and pit at the dinner table and we always, you know, do the peak first and the pit because it's it's good to recognize these things. But also you know that what are you grateful for first and foremost?
Speaker 2:I think that's a really cool exercise that you do at the dinner table with your kids too, because that does kind of it models the behavior. But it also brings a point. Those moments of mindfulness, you know that we're all just kind of trying to highlight and or work through whenever they happen, you know. So it serves as a, again, mindfulness gratitude exercise, but also like a problem solving almost thing like well, now what do we do, how do we cope? And that just builds a foundation for future. You know, excellent coping whenever those kind of bad things roll around or whenever circumstances just seem to kind of derail in front of us, and then choosing how to respond in those moments.
Speaker 1:So I love because it gets your kids talking. You know, sometimes they don't necessarily open up to you and tell you what happened in the day, and so they have to sit there and think about it, because you can't get up from the table until you've given your peak and your pit, and so and they, they enjoy it. Sometimes we don't even sit down and they're like what's your pit ma, or what's your pit ma, but it kind of like gives you some more insight into what their day was like, because they'll be like well, you know, my pit today is that we lost recess because everybody was talking. You know, whatever, it was.
Speaker 1:And you know they, everybody was talking, you know whatever it was, and you know they're not necessarily going to tell me that kind of stuff, but like it comes out and so we can like sort of problem solve, well, what, what could you do differently? How can I help? You know, those types of things I do like that. It gives us that opportunity to like get a glimpse into their little minds.
Speaker 2:I love.
Speaker 1:Jolie. I mean, you know my daughter Jolie. She's often, to oftentimes, will say I don't have a pit, and if that doesn't sum up her personality, then nothing does. She's just living her best life at all times and she loves it. She loves everyone and everything and a lot of times she's like I got a couple peaks, but I don't have any pits today, and we're like go girl, go girl. Yes, queen, yes, it's your world, we're just living in it she is absolutely the best.
Speaker 2:I just want to carry her out of my little pocket and just listen to her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's hilarious, I love her so much she's so fun, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think that there, I mean it sounds like that the characteristics that she's displaying are almost like that an internal optimist, you know, like that she just has that ingrained within her and I think that that probably is a personality trait that we don't recognize as much about ourselves or about other people until they start to describe it about themselves or until we see it like as a repetitive period. My husband is a describes himself as, and I think that he just is. He's a very big optimist about things like. He is just always looking forward, always looking bright, very rarely allows things to completely, like derail or distress him out, cause he's just, he automatically goes into problem solving mode anytime any situation comes up, and then that's whenever his more like analytical or logical mind will kind of kick in at that point to assist with that optimism drive that he kind of has with things.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:I love being around people that their mind works that way. You feel safer, almost in their presence. Like I can think of several of my husband my husband's that way too, and several of his friends are that way and like you just feel like like that couple we travel with to Europe, like, no matter what happens we're going to between the four of us, we're going to figure it out with to Europe, like, no matter what happens we're going between the four of us, we're going to figure it out. Yeah, you know, and like I, just there's like a safeness that comes with that security of like people that don't get frazzled very easily. Kind of you know, I would say I'm an eternal optimist. Would you call yourself one?
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know, I don't see that's a hard part for me, Like I don't know how I try't See, that's the hard part for me Like I don't know how I try to avoid labels, you know, and that's where I just kind of get stuck with that. I think that I'm a yes person. I'll say yes to nearly anything you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not scared of anything. Yeah, and it doesn't even Almost to a fault.
Speaker 2:Right, A hundred percent to a fault, Definitely, definitely to a fault. But I think that that characteristic is optimistic in that, no matter what situation again you're going to kind of get in, that you're just going to figure it out. You know, or it's going to work out, or it's going to be fun, or um. We're exaggerating risk in some of the things that we do instead of looking fairly at opportunity. Um, so that's, I don't. I think that most of the time, I probably. I don't know what do you think?
Speaker 1:I have no idea, I just I think for the most part you are. I mean, you've always had like a super positive outlook, like you can achieve anything. I think that's part of why you're so successful is because you feel very confident that you can achieve things. Um, and I think there's some like it vacillates. Like, while I call myself an eternal optimist cause I'm always like everything will work out. Like life is, you know, it is what it's meant to be. Like it, everything works out the way it's supposed to.
Speaker 1:Um, I've sort of always had that personality, even as a kid. I can think about like how I always just knew, like I was going to meet my husband one day, like I never thought like well, what if I end up alone? Like I just knew he was out there. I can't explain that, I can't explain that, but like I just knew. But to the same thing, as I tend to get super anxious right and fear the worst, and like I've gotten so much better, like even saying that out loud, I'm like wow, I really don't. Like. Last night I had a flash of anxiety. We were in the middle of dinner and it literally lasted about 10 seconds and I was just now saying this out loud. I'm like it's wild how quickly I recover.
Speaker 1:Whereas that used to spiral me for hours and hours. You know I could not like reframe things in my mind and now you know I immediately recognize her, what it is. I'm like that's an anxious thought, that's not real, that's not true. You're safe. Like I just start all those things and then like it's gone, and sometimes that's less than 30 seconds. Yeah, but I will say I do tend to think like my kids, you know they my husband calls me a helicopter mom because I'm always worried about them. I always will be. I don't like them going places alone. You know I'm I'm probably a little overprotective sometimes, but I challenge myself often to like use that like everything will be fine you know, you've taught them well, like they know what to do Should they find themselves in a sticky situation.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I don't think that that negates, like me, being a an optimist, if you will Right, right. No, I don't think it does negates, like me, being a, an optimist, if you will. Right, right, no.
Speaker 1:I don't think it does, even seeing things for what it is. You know, when I had the whole like car issues that week that we came back, I was telling my husband this I'm like I'm just really thankful that this didn't happen. I was about to travel by myself um on a long you know I had for work I had to go on like a two hour drive by myself. I'm like I'm just really glad that didn't happen to me, like in the middle of nowhere without cell service, like I'm always thinking about those kinds of things that could happen, and so I'm like, ah, that's way better than if it happened then you know he was like what a great way to think about that, you know, and I'm like, yeah, but that's honestly the first thing that came to my mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I think, yes, like if I think about, like if I get stuck in traffic or something unexpected happens like that, then that's one of those things that I feel in those moments. It saves me from something I 100% agree, talked about in one of our previous episodes, like those God winks or signs from the universe that were kind of on the right path. Little things like that I'm very aware of and pay attention to, because I do find that they are. Maybe it's a self confirming bias, but I find that they're right, you know, I find that they're correct in moving forward or taking extra steps of caution. But I don't, I guess I just have a.
Speaker 2:There's certain situations let's be fair that I will sit and for a period of time and just bitch about or do the what was me, you know, and I just waller yes, get back to the wallers, get back to the wallers, get back to the pig in the mud. Um, all in all, in for certain things, for very certain things. I will do that, but it's never, like it's very rarely, I would say, like big stuff, like cameron driving across the country. He was doing that ever since he got a driver's license. He's a type one diabetic doing this by himself.
Speaker 2:Should I be worried? I don't know. Some parents really freak out about this shit. Meanwhile I'm like he's out, you know, keep some shit in your car, good luck. So I don't, I don't fret about those things, I don't, um, I don't. I'm not that kind of helicopter parent with either one of them, like I always want them to reach and to stretch, or you know, rachel's really adventurous and will do really fun and big things, and I'm like, well, let's push more, like let's climb higher. You know I don't need to stand behind you, let's see how well you do, and so I think that that's I don't know if that's an internal sense of optimism or faith, which I don't know that maybe those two things are the same or connected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe I aspire to be that way. I really do Like I was. I'm like, oh, you should get down and you're going to get hurt. Let's, let's not. I mean I, I just I am a nervous nelly about certain things. I totally am. And um, yeah, I'm definitely like my kids like to climb trees and I'm like, could you not climb to the top of the tree?
Speaker 1:mom's freaking out down here, guys you know, I just I try to say it in a very gentle way they're like mom, like oh, we're fine, and but like I, I can like vividly see them like falling out of the tree and breaking an arm and I'm like I don't want to spend my night in the ER, like maybe that's a little bit selfish you know, like I come on, I have plans tonight. Like I'll do that yeah.
Speaker 2:I will do that. I'll be like I'm not in the mood to take you to the hospital. Let's just go ahead and establish that real quick. You know also, if you don't have a compound fracture or signs of internal bleeding or have a fever that's like 103, I'm probably not going to do much about it. So yeah, can we go on?
Speaker 1:You'll be fine. So I do think that it comes back to this idea of like, if you have any kind of faith in whatever you believe in we don't, you know, obviously shared our, our, our beliefs on this show but, um, there's some sort of like faith that the universe is really looking out for you, at least for me, and God is looking out for me. And I, you know, I have, like you know, prayers every day and like things that I do, that I feel like, for whatever reason, hold me in this safe space of like you'll be fine, everything will be fine, no matter what gets thrown your way, you know you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:God is faithful, you'll get through it, whatever it is, even when stuff gets really hard. You know, even when it's like big hard stuff, I don't know, I just always go back to it and I think that's, you know, part of what's so helpful about faith is that you have that to go to in times when you're really struggling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, or not, or just day to day life, like you know sign or seeing something that is uplifting or confirming or positive in any of those routes or realms is really what it kind of comes down to, for sure, but it's taking those moments and resetting and I don't think that, you know, being nervous or anxious, like you said, negates optimism, right? I think that it is just a pattern of behavior that we just kind of get stuck in at times or that we get triggered to respond that way, but then again, I think that our response changes over time once we get confirmation that things are going to be okay, or it's going to be a little different, or, you know, I don't think that you're as much of a helicopter parent of the kids as what you were maybe three years ago or six months ago.
Speaker 2:Like you know, the meditation pays off, baby it does.
Speaker 1:It's a work in progress, but it definitely pays off. All the things pay off. It's doing the work. Um, I think about that a lot too, just like the. You may not see a day in, a day out, but it's like the daily work, the daily, like commitment to myself and to showing up the best version of myself. She ain't perfect but by God, is she getting better every day. Right, and you know, I think says says a lot. You just have to commit to the bit, man, commit to the bit. That's right. Whatever your bit is, commit to it.
Speaker 2:That's true as Penn, for the very first time we've ever recorded this podcast. How does this work?
Speaker 1:Very first time she's got something to say, giving us an affirmation.
Speaker 2:She's either there's only a few things she's doing. She's probably being a little pouty right now, or proud that's what this dog does, pouty or proud, that's what this dog does, pouty or proud. But no to what you're saying. I think that those things, I don't know. I just feel like that's a more, I don't know that it's optimistic. I just feel like it's a truer way to kind of look at and approach things, life, things, whatever happens to be kind of going on at that moment. So, and I think too, it's not, I'm not the type of person that can just live in. Woe is me because it's not functional, right. And so for me, I look at things in terms of their functionality. Like, is it functional for me to sit here and wallow for a little bit? Probably Everybody needs a few minutes to bitch Sure.
Speaker 2:I just I think, and if you're not the person, that can be that ear to somebody then, just tell them, you know if you go right into problem solving mode or if you go right into whatever, or it's too close to the subject for you to have to hear. You know what I mean. I totally get it, but you need to maybe warn him. Like I just need a few minutes to bitch about this and then it's all going to be okay. Right, and then it does get that way. But it's non-functional to kind of sit there and to live in that space, and that's not something I'm really willing to do either. So it's a temporary, it's a rest area that you stop at for a moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think those are important people to have in your life, though I can think of a few where I'm that person for them and you're certainly that person for me. I mean yesterday, when we got on to record, I definitely wallowed for like a solid 15 before we hit play, but like I just needed to get all that off my chest, I was like I'm pissed about this, I'm annoyed about this, I don't, I haven't felt good for a week, you know. I just needed to like say it all yeah and I. You know, I have a friend that calls me and does the same thing, and it's funny because a lot of times you can get yourself there.
Speaker 1:The other person doesn't even have to say anything. Right, like, sometimes you can come full circle. That happened recently and I was having a conversation with a friend and she goes I mean, what am I even complaining about? At least I'm not dealing with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like something way worse. And I was like exactly, like there's always something worse that we, you know, could be experiencing, and so sometimes just that reminder of like yeah, this shall pass, all those things hold true.
Speaker 2:They do. Those negative comparisons to other people's situations can really be grounding too. You know, if you like, we kind of joke about it like this is our first world or whatever. It is kind of problems or whatever which is a hundred percent true. Yeah, and the second that I bring my awareness to, that it's like it makes me just. It's like you're driving down the road and then you just like slam on your brakes to avoid hitting like a squirrel. Yeah, you know, it's like okay, that's what I needed in this moment, to really kind of sit back and realize and what in the hell am I sitting here like literally bitching about, right, like so this isn't good enough for me now. Who died and anointed me queen, you know, but I think that it's still okay for us to acknowledge that when those moments happen, here we are. Just allow yourself some grace If we're in, the woes is me's, or if we're wallowing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and hopefully you have that person that you can talk to.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know FaceTime with and just be like I just need a minute. I feel like most good girl nights start that way, like I'm going to need to get this off my chest so that I can like go full in and have the most fun tonight. Like I feel like a lot of times when I get together with my girlfriends that's how we start. We're like let's just get all the bitching out first thing, right. We're like let's just get all the bitching out first thing, right, and then like let's get on to the funny fun stuff after that. But we all sort of need that moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we serve as vessels, you know, so we all just kind of need to discharge before we can let more in, otherwise our cup doesn't get replenished, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:With a healthy amount of things. So I don't know, but it is tough, but it is tough, but it's part of the work we do, right, always looking for the lemons. You always have to look for the lemons to make the lemonade. Yeah, good point. I don't know, just roll with it.
Speaker 1:I guess, right, roll with it. If you're listening to this and it's early morning, you're on your way to work. I hope that your day is filled with lemons and not like terrible things happening to you. I just mean, I hope that you can see things for what they are. Maybe you're stuck in traffic and you avoided being in an accident. That one, that example I love because I do think about that a lot. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you know, had you been 15 minutes earlier, or five minutes earlier, that could have been your car.
Speaker 2:Whatever it is, it's like those are really good reminders when we get frustrated about things like traffic and not being on time, oh yeah, or even little things like I'll watch a reel sometimes and I'll be like I'll get real teary about it, because it's about like I don't know. Recently over the weekend there's a guy that does sports center news who is golden retriever passed away. I never knew who this guy was until I started seeing that his golden retriever was sick and then the poor thing died. And so I'm sitting there watching and reading about this and then that makes me just want to put my phone down even more or to do other things and hold on to penny, you know, right, yeah, or you just get those reminders about things, about what we should really be kind of appreciative of from seeing those random things, and then it's like taking that pause and being like, okay, here we are yeah, right, we're back, dogs healthy, it's sunny out, I could take him for a walk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, put my phone down. Exactly, social media's got a lot of I mean I, I totally agree, like you can see one thing on there and you're like ah, you know what. This isn't that big of a deal, or it's it's. It can sometimes serve as a good reminder definitely definitely so.
Speaker 2:There's one other thing that, speaking of which now know why Penny was barking the big one came by. But the big one came by, the one that can drive came by. But there was a point in time where I don't even remember what it was, but he actually said this on a podcast that he was on, and he said what was the interviewer? I actually think it might have been jeff asked him what is the best piece of advice that you have ever been given? And he said um, I'm gonna it up. Uh, what was it? Was it Uncertainty equals opportunity? And and he was like Whoa, that was like. He said my mom, it actually came from my mom. He said that uncertainty equals opportunity. And he said that.
Speaker 2:And he said anytime that I find myself in that situation, no matter where it's at, he said I go back to that. And I was like, oh, my God, there's another. You know, did the right thing Right? Eventually, you get those. But whenever he said that, I was like, oh, that's really sweet, but he says it all the time, and so now that I know that that is something that rings true, I think having those mantras can also be helpful in, just, you know, pushing whenever we feel we're up against the wall, or whenever on that bird of verge of anxiety or not knowing what decision to make or how to react to a situation. These things have all happened because the universe has made it to happen in that moment, and so, and if all of that is perfect and the will of whatever, then it's an opportunity.
Speaker 1:So it might be hidden, or it might seem hidden, but it's there it might take a long time. Yeah, yeah, totally agree Find the lemons, find the the lemons make some lemonade.
Speaker 2:You can spike it if you need to, on some on those waller days.
Speaker 1:That might be how yeah well, I don't know if you should self-cope on those waller days maybe no but I think it is important to remember that something positive is going to come out of pretty much anything. Yes, if you allow it to, if you allow it to Even you know the really tough stuff Something positive can always come. You never know what's on the other side. Totally fair, totally fair, which is a little exciting too right, that's what the opportunity is, right. We sort of talked about that with peaks and valleys, that episode we did on peaks and valleys, how life is just like a constant flow of peaks and valleys and like you never know what peak is like when you're in the thick of it, when you're in that valley, you never know what's on the other side, what kind of peak is headed your way.
Speaker 2:And headed your way, and I think there's something very exciting about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, and that's again, no matter what analogy we kind of come up with it, it's always just seeing the cyclic nature of things and then, if you can see, if you're looking forward, that's the only you're looking forward and you see so much more whenever you have that visual perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know whether that?
Speaker 1:you did that with your race, when you didn't accomplish your goal that you set out and you were like, had I done that? Yeah, I've had the time with my friends and you know like you certainly made lemonade out of that situation.
Speaker 2:It's a hundred. Is it still? Is it still a challenge?
Speaker 1:Yes, I know Right, I'm a month out.
Speaker 2:A month.
Speaker 1:Right, but that was a big goal that you had set for yourself and something you'd worked really hard for. So like that was one of those really shitty circumstances but like you were like I'm not gonna waller in this, I think you probably gave yourself a little bit of wallering and oh, I said and cried for a bit. Yeah then you were like I will reframe this and find the good right, and that's really the message today is like find the good, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Sit, give yourself a minute and then find the good yeah, the universe made this moment happen because it was supposed to. I know all things in your life have led to this place in space. Now how? What are we going to see from it?
Speaker 1:yeah, like that ending on a little hope that's it.
Speaker 2:Got to, got to alright.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that's a wrap for episode 71 of the. Lylas Podcast text us. That's the last topic idea I've got right now. So if you got any ideas, send them our way. You can text the show at Lylaspodcastcom or you can go. I know for sure on Apple Podcasts there's a little link. You can text the show at lilaspodcastcom or you can go. I know for sure on Apple podcasts there's a little link that says text the show. So yeah, send us any ideas.
Speaker 1:If you would like to be a guest and you have some mental wellness sort of topic in mind, we're always open to that as well. So let's reach out to us. Yeah, come on, we'd love to have you. Yeah, join the conversation. Maybe Join the conversation? No, no, we won't, we'll vet it out. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Until next week. Bye everyone, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. Thank you.
